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Gaming => Urban Terror => Topic started by: BourBon on June 21, 2012, 07:58:47 PM
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Players give away the position of their enemy to their teammates on ts3...because on certain 1up servers it is allowed to spectate the opposing team. This is bad because it doesn't teach player to listen or strategize against their opponent. Resulting in more players who never improve in skill. To me that is just sad and poor sportsmanship. There's my 10 cents. It's silly and ridiculous. Don't do that, it benefits no one long term only short term. Either way I'm going to pwn you, but ya don't have to be a loser about it. :P
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:C no one tells me anything :yawn:
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:C no one tells me anything :yawn:
ROFL
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Players give away the position of their enemy to their teammates on ts3...because on certain 1up servers it is allowed to spectate the opposing team. This is bad because it doesn't teach player to listen or strategize against their opponent. Resulting in more players who never improve in skill. To me that is just sad and poor sportsmanship. There's my 10 cents. It's silly and ridiculous. Don't do that, it benefits no one long term only short term. Either way I'm going to pwn you, but ya don't have to be a loser about it. :P
I've been saying this for years, but nobody cared back then, and nobody cares now. I guess we have to accept it bourbs.
Back in my day though, before ts3, mumble, vent, roger wilco, etc, we used those strategies that you mention, but things have changed.
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I guess the true problem is...is that you can actually spectate the opposing team. Now that could be fixed! :)
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It might give away your location but it is a good tool for spectating hackers. Do you really want to go into spectator whenever you get killed by someone just to catch them or go incognito? It just looks fishy. I say keep it how it is.
It was never a real problem before. Like Pyrite said, no one cares.
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I just met you
and this is crazy
heres my number
call me maybe
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I guess the true problem is...is that you can actually spectate the opposing team. Now that could be fixed! :)
Seriously all jokes aside. You are failing to acknowledge that the the servers that allow spectating on both sides are PUB server. Meaning you play them for fun. Those are not scrim or tourney servers. There is no need to treat PUB servers as strict as competition servers. As Redrum stated it has been like that for a while and the spectating can be used for other purposes than jsut giving away someones position. You cannot expect a 1up member to be on the servers at all times to catch hackers and not everyone can go incognito but everyone can use spectate. I could go on for a while stating reasons why spectating both sides is good and bad but by the time i'm done the list for good would be 4x larger than the list for bad.
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The only thing I dont like about ts3, is that you get too distracted talking and you dont pay attention to the game :/
But I agree with bourb -_- giving away the position of the enemy isnt really helping anyone :S
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I like trains :)
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Even if people are giving away positions on ts3 as long as you are listening in game like most do anyway you should hear them coming before they get to you regardless of ts3.
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Yep I see how it is used to catch hackers, but it's just the same as hacking giving away positions by specing the enemy. Just like wall hacks.
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Except Wallhacks are against the rules. Communicating with your team using the tools available to you is not.
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I like trains :)
Im going to do an internet :P
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asdf much? xD
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This is why i stay off of TS3.. I don't care if the enemy finds their death faster. I just don't like all the noise
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Personally, I can see the "head-up" from a teammate IF they're actually playing. Specing the other team and reporting their position every second, is nearly a workaround for tracking a player (multiple players, same IP.... Fun if it really is multiple players on the same IP, but not so if one is the player, and others are just that player's eyes.
Sad thing is, how to tell the difference. The average player can't... so it's hard for them to find a cheat... not as easy even for a 1up who has access to player IPs, as they can't tell for sure, as (best as I know) there's no way to spec a spectator to see if they're just parked, specing and recording, or specing to give away position. To stop the specing makes it easier for a hacker to cheat, which is even worse. It's a mixed bag, but unless you limit concurrent connections per IP address (not good if you have friends, family, or a spouse who likes to play with or against you on the same server)... no easy solution, and unless you want to be as popular as SCOTUS is right now... probably best left as-is.
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I guess ill connect my 2nd computer and use it to spec the enemy while I play since its ok
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The average player can't...
The average player has access to the Ts3 server that 1up uses. It is actually posted on the servers themselves. the option to join is always available. Just got to be patient enough to get actual speaking privileges.
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lolz :P
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The average player can't...
The average player has access to the Ts3 server that 1up uses. It is actually posted on the servers themselves. the option to join is always available. Just got to be patient enough to get actual speaking privileges.
Think about it this way Rum, the average UrT player coming in now is somewhere around 8-15 not all of which are:
1. smart enough to find a VOIP client
2. willing to talk join a VOIP server
3. have a mic they can use
No doubt, they have access to it like everyone else, but they are generally to inexperienced, lazy, dim, or some combination of the three to do so.
But Bourbon has a good point, at least to a degree. It makes it much harder on admins, not to mention the fact that it does get frustrating when you know your position is being handed out to the enemy either by team mates or by enemies that can see where you are in order to get back to playing faster.
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why are you digging up old threads?
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This is the old thread police. Disperse from this thread or you will be dispersed. >:( 8)
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Sorry...wasn't looking at the date and I guess I ignored the warning message
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Shoulda stayed using vent
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Shoulda stayed using vent
May be you would've liked to pay for it? ;)
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you dont have to pay for vent. i have run it plenty of times locally. you just need to do a little work to bypass the user limit. BUT TS3 is just a better voip service. you can store files on a TS3 server, uses less bandwidth, custom icons, etc