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Gaming => Urban Terror => Topic started by: Dynasty[1up] on September 29, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
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Here. Maybe this will enlighten things some.
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Takes away from the game. It's kill and be killed. Not kill and kill yourself.
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http://www.1upclan.info/forum/index.php?action=votelog;topic=12632
^ Shows what people voted and why.
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good job starting this vote dynasty :D
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good job starting this vote dynasty :D
Thanks.
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Voted no.
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Voted no.
Thanks for the support.
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ok this vote is pointless /kill will NOT be removed from the servers
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this vote is not to get that done sniper,
its to get this under people's attention,
and to get to know what the 1up community thinks of the /kill command
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ok this vote is pointless /kill will NOT be removed from the servers
If it's so pointless, why'd you vote then? ???
Besides, like Curby said, this is to get peoples attention.
I'm hoping that if enough people voice their opinion on how they feel about /kill, Ron will actually take the time to look and at this and think "Hmm, a lot of people think that the /kill command on the zombie servers is bad for game play and that it takes away from the game. Maybe I should change it." or something to that affect.
I'd like to think that if enough people speak out about something and show why it's bad and maybe give examples, then that the proper time will be taken to consider changing what is deemed the issue.
At least, that's what I think should happen.
So why not change something that so many oppose? Something that so many have asked to be changed so often? Something that has been explained over and over on why it's not good for game play?
To sum up, I think it's time for some change.
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Just played some zombie bomb, and let me tell you, it was pretty sad. :/
Half the zombie team and maybe a forth of the human team was using /kill every round.
It was ridiculous...
Makes me not want to play anymore. :-\
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Voted no. ill admit its not a huge deal for me but it is kind of stupid that they kill themselves just so they dont die by you. if you work for a kill i believe you should get the kill. but like i said its not a huge deal for me.
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the way i see it, let them kill themselves.. less ammo you have to use and one less zombie you have to worry about...
too many stat \/\/hores.. just play the game.
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To many /kill VVhores just play the game.
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the way i see it, let them kill themselves.. less ammo you have to use and one less zombie you have to worry about...
too many stat \/\/hores.. just play the game.
+1
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Emo zombies? ???
Maybe add a script that kicks those that use the /kill command more than once an hour from the server, just for an hour so the command does not get abused.
I do not even play on the zombie servers, even though I have tried them a while back.
Abusing a suicide command is in my opinion cowardly. Either play the game or play another server.
Funny thing is, I did not know about the command, and could have used it about two weeks ago in the TDM Fun server when I was stuck next to a wall and could not move. I was unstuck by being killed by the other team so I could respawn. I never told anyone I was stuck, but continued to kill the other team when they came near. I was eventually killed which allowed me to jump around and nade once again. I have not been able to recreate the stuck bug, so I never reported it. It was probably just a random glitch.
Edit: I did not vote, only because there is a legit reason for the command, but abuse of the command should be dealt with. So, how would I select an answer?
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Emo zombies? ???
Maybe add a script that kicks those that use the /kill command more than once an hour from the server, just for an hour so the command does not get abused.
I do not even play on the zombie servers, even though I have tried them a while back.
Abusing a suicide command is in my opinion cowardly. Either play the game or play another server.
Funny thing is, I did not know about the command, and could have used it about two weeks ago in the TDM Fun server when I was stuck next to a wall and could not move. I was unstuck by being killed by the other team so I could respawn. I never told anyone I was stuck, but continued to kill the other team when they came near. I was eventually killed which allowed me to jump around and nade once again. I have not been able to recreate the stuck bug, so I never reported it. It was probably just a random glitch.
Edit: I did not vote, only because there is a legit reason for the command, but abuse of the command should be dealt with. So, how would I select an answer?
Were you in Riyahd? I get stuck in a glitch there all the time climbing the ladders
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Emo zombies? ???
Maybe add a script that kicks those that use the /kill command more than once an hour from the server, just for an hour so the command does not get abused.
I do not even play on the zombie servers, even though I have tried them a while back.
Abusing a suicide command is in my opinion cowardly. Either play the game or play another server.
Funny thing is, I did not know about the command, and could have used it about two weeks ago in the TDM Fun server when I was stuck next to a wall and could not move. I was unstuck by being killed by the other team so I could respawn. I never told anyone I was stuck, but continued to kill the other team when they came near. I was eventually killed which allowed me to jump around and nade once again. I have not been able to recreate the stuck bug, so I never reported it. It was probably just a random glitch.
Edit: I did not vote, only because there is a legit reason for the command, but abuse of the command should be dealt with. So, how would I select an answer?
I am asking to limit the the use of /kill for zombie servers, not 1up Fun or Super Ts or any other 1up servers. And I'm not asking to completely disallow it. Instead, just to make it illegal to spam it like so many players do nowadays. I would just like to change it to make it against the rules for excess use.
Also, your idea for a script command that only lets you use it like once and hour is a good idea. But if developing that takes too much time or effort, then just makeing it against the rules to spam /kill would be just as good.
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To farther iterate, I'm not asking to completely disallow /kill. It has practical purposes such as getting out of a glitched spot like you stated Cope57, or using it to demo someone at the beginning of the round.
It's just the fact that countless people use it when on the servers and it takes away from the game. Just like team killing or other forms of asshatery.
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ok this vote is pointless /kill will NOT be removed from the servers
Sniper, I know you get irritated when people automatically die right in front of you, and you don't get the kill.
Trust Me, I know. ;)
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Flame[1up] said it's not easy but it's possible to solve this problem( make the slash kill illegal or no more /kill ) so if you convince Ron that it should be done it will be done.
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ok this vote is pointless /kill will NOT be removed from the servers
Sniper, I know you get irritated when people automatically die right in front of you, and you don't get the kill.
Trust Me, I know. ;)
most ppl only do it if they are getting spammed by 2 or 3 players same as me. All removing /kill will do is run off the little bit of players we still have. Every time we remove or change something we loss players so go ahead finish killing r servers so you can have better stats. I think what we need to do is turn off xlrstats. I get sick of seeing !xlrstats every 2 seconds we also need to turn off the !challenge. I had to mute every 1 on the server the other day every one was spamming it and making the server lag
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If there is no xlrstats then we will lose way more players than what you think we'll lose by getting rid of /kill.
Playing for fun is good and all, but it gets boring if you have nothing to strive for. That's the reason why we have xlrstats. So people can compete for the top positions and scores. Whats the point of playing if you don't have something to show for it? This is why things like sports award trophies to winning teams and document them in record books.
And once again, if you continue to state to not care about stats, then why, why, do you use /kill, denying the person who was about to kill you of a point. You're contradicting yourself. ???
Reason goes to show only the noobs who care about stats use /kill anyways, thus saving their stats by losing less points.
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If there is no xlrstats then we will lose way more players than what you think we'll lose by getting rid of /kill.
Playing for fun is good and all, but it gets boring if you have nothing to strive for. That's the reason why we have xlrstats. So people can compete for the top positions and scores. Whats the point of playing if you don't have something to show for it? This is why things like sports award trophies to winning teams and document them in record books.
And once again, if you continue to state to not care about stats, then why, why, do you use /kill, denying the person who was about to kill you of a point. You're contradicting yourself. ???
Reason goes to show only the noobs who care about stats use /kill anyways, thus saving their stats by losing less points.
We can just edit the stats so that the /kill counts
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Make every /kill drop their skill points by 10
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How about each /kill makes their deaths rise by 10?
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If there is no xlrstats then we will lose way more players than what you think we'll lose by getting rid of /kill.
Playing for fun is good and all, but it gets boring if you have nothing to strive for. That's the reason why we have xlrstats. So people can compete for the top positions and scores. Whats the point of playing if you don't have something to show for it? This is why things like sports award trophies to winning teams and document them in record books.
And once again, if you continue to state to not care about stats, then why, why, do you use /kill, denying the person who was about to kill you of a point. You're contradicting yourself. ???
Reason goes to show only the noobs who care about stats use /kill anyways, thus saving their stats by losing less points.
We can just edit the stats so that the /kill counts
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great idea!
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We can just make a B3 plugin that deletes the stats of people who use the /kill x number of times in x number of minutes.
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ok this vote is pointless /kill will NOT be removed from the servers
Sniper, I know you get irritated when people automatically die right in front of you, and you don't get the kill.
Trust Me, I know. ;)
most ppl only do it if they are getting spammed by 2 or 3 players same as me. All removing /kill will do is run off the little bit of players we still have. Every time we remove or change something we loss players so go ahead finish killing r servers so you can have better stats. I think what we need to do is turn off xlrstats. I get sick of seeing !xlrstats every 2 seconds we also need to turn off the !challenge. I had to mute every 1 on the server the other day every one was spamming it and making the server lag
Sniper is right!
Always had his back, always will,
In zombie mods, a win is a win, don't live by xlrstats.
On fun server when you have low stamina and health you use /kill, same in ctf. In super ts it could be used to piss people off, but who cares?!?
Just play the game while it is still somewhat popular
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Umm...People abuse it and use it for THEIR stats since it doesn't take away from them. ::)
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Umm...People abuse it and use it for THEIR stats since it doesn't take away from them. ::)
Aka, Lancer.
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Emo zombies? ???
Maybe add a script that kicks those that use the /kill command more than once an hour from the server, just for an hour so the command does not get abused.
I do not even play on the zombie servers, even though I have tried them a while back.
Abusing a suicide command is in my opinion cowardly. Either play the game or play another server.
Funny thing is, I did not know about the command, and could have used it about two weeks ago in the TDM Fun server when I was stuck next to a wall and could not move. I was unstuck by being killed by the other team so I could respawn. I never told anyone I was stuck, but continued to kill the other team when they came near. I was eventually killed which allowed me to jump around and nade once again. I have not been able to recreate the stuck bug, so I never reported it. It was probably just a random glitch.
Edit: I did not vote, only because there is a legit reason for the command, but abuse of the command should be dealt with. So, how would I select an answer?
Were you in Riyahd? I get stuck in a glitch there all the time climbing the ladders
Who actually uses ladders? lmao :P
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Emo zombies? ???
Maybe add a script that kicks those that use the /kill command more than once an hour from the server, just for an hour so the command does not get abused.
I do not even play on the zombie servers, even though I have tried them a while back.
Abusing a suicide command is in my opinion cowardly. Either play the game or play another server.
Funny thing is, I did not know about the command, and could have used it about two weeks ago in the TDM Fun server when I was stuck next to a wall and could not move. I was unstuck by being killed by the other team so I could respawn. I never told anyone I was stuck, but continued to kill the other team when they came near. I was eventually killed which allowed me to jump around and nade once again. I have not been able to recreate the stuck bug, so I never reported it. It was probably just a random glitch.
Edit: I did not vote, only because there is a legit reason for the command, but abuse of the command should be dealt with. So, how would I select an answer?
Were you in Riyahd? I get stuck in a glitch there all the time climbing the ladders
Who actually uses ladders? lmao :P
^^ Quake hacks
He may not use an aimbot or wallhack, he may not even have some original hack he made. I am pretty sure that Quake, the individual, the person himself, is a hack.
**And it is actually happens most when I am jumping off the wall to the top of the ladder that I get stuck in a glitch. I am pretty sure the ladder would work fine if I just climbed it like normal.
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Any solution needs to be cost effective.
1) Make a list of the idiots who are doing this and we will just DELETE all their stats.
2) /kill is hardcoded into the game. It would cost me hundreds of dollars to get rid of that. Besides, we have slay commands that force clients to kill themselves when they get caught glitching or doing other stupid stuff.
3) An alternative plugin would be to have B3 read the log for those who killed themselves and were not slain, then some punishment would be given, like a tempban of X minutes.
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Well, voting has officially ended. Thanks to all who partook in the poll, voicing your different opinions. ;D
I have been informed that the issue is going to be addressed within a reasonable time frame and will eventually be enforced through a B3 plugin.
So once again, thanks to those who shared their concerns and took time to make them known.